A Gentleman and a Rogue

Saturday, May 22, 2010

Historical Saturday - Henry VIII and Syphilis - Part 3


Welcome to Part III in my Henry VII Syphilis Series - Today we'll take a look at Henry's children and how they suffered with congential syphilis.

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Now, Part III

HENRY VIII & JANE SEYMOUR

During the king’s sexual relations with Anne, it was reported by her that Henry, on occasion, had a hard time sustaining an erection. In fact, Henry had been married to Jane Seymour for seven months before Jane conceived a child. While sources at the time can’t confirm Henry might be going impotent, I suggest this is strong circumstantial evidence he was. After all, we knew he was very virile. Katherine and Anne got pregnant by him almost immediately after consummating their physical relations with him. Also, while Jane Seymour died in childbirth, Edward, Henry’s son by her, was the last known child from Henry VIII. Henry did not get Anne of Cleaves pregnant in their brief marriage. Anne was reported telling one of her ladies that while he was on top, he tried and tried, but could not sustain an erection. In Henry’s next marriage to Katherine Howard, it was reported that due to his weight, she had to get on top of him. Katherine was documented often complaining that Henry could not sustain an erection. As for Henry’s last wife, Katherine Parr, while unconfirmed, I doubt they attempted sexual intercourse. Parr outlived Henry and entered into a marriage with Thomas Seymour, Jane’s brother. Parr gave birth to a healthy girl who never showed any signs of congenital syphilis.

The interesting question history now poses is this: Did Edward VI suffer from congenital syphilis?

It is interesting to note that during Jane Seymour’s pregnancy, Henry developed a strange lesion on the side of his nose, a further tell-tale symptom of tertiary syphilis and secondary symptoms. Also, during this time, Henry started to go prematurely gray and grow fat. Within four years, his doublet would have expanded to fit 3 of the biggest men of the time.

Jane Seymour suffered a hard, three day labor. Reports as to her son’s health were mixed. As for Jane, the childbirth was excruciating. Given the documented evidence that exists, there was probably a tear in her perineum which got infected and this infection developed into perpetual fever which killed her. She did not die from symptoms of syphilis. Ironically, Henry had ordered clean sheets and the finest linens for his son, while Jane recovered in dirty and unsanitary conditions. If he had ordered the clean sheets and hygienic conditions for her, she might have lived.

History is inconsistent as to Prince Edward’s health in his early years. One source documents he had a healthy, lusty cry, while the other states, “he was never a robust child.”

Circumstantial evidence leans toward Edward having congenital syphilis. After all, his sister, Mary, suffered from it and she was now 20. Henry and Jane had unprotected sex for seven months before she conceived. Remember that lesion he developed on his face? His secondary symptoms were active. I assert that Henry had an open sore while his secondary symptoms of syphilis were flaring up and he gave Jane syphilis.

Weir writes that Edward thrived under the care of a wet nurse. Henry imposed high standards of hygiene regarding his son, yet Edward did have reported problems teething. This would be a symptom of congenital syphilis. When Edward was four it was reported he had a bad fever. He was occasionally ill in childhood and suffered from poor eyesight, but enjoyed good health until the last six months of his life. Again, a child with congenital syphilis could display all of this and be considered “healthy.” Mary Tudor’s own health demonstrated this.

In 1546, Henry VIII was 54 years old. He could barely walk and became absentminded. When he finally died, the stench of his bursting leg ulcers consumed the room.

Interestingly, the king’s doctors never thought for one minute he suffered from syphilis.

When Henry died, his 9 year old son came to the throne under a regency due to his age. Edward VI died when he was 15. The general consensus of the medical doctors was consumption, and while it was probable Edward did suffer and die from this, most of the symptoms given for his poor health in the last six months of his life are consistent with congenital syphilis. Edward was now a teenager and exhibiting signs of the tertiary phase. His symptoms included hair loss, the loss of his nails, swollen legs and arms, flu-like symptoms, chronic coughing (possibly due to the consumption) and rash-like bed sores. It was noted that he ejected a greenish-yellow, black and pinkish matter from his mouth which would support a diagnosis of consumption. However, I assert that the totality of symptoms also indicate Edward had congenital syphilis and tertiary stage symptoms which contributed to his death.

MARY I

Edward died in July 1553. Mary came to the throne in her own right. She was 37. Almost immediately, Mary went about finding a husband. She married the Spanish prince, Phillip in July 1554. While it was known that Phillip didn’t care for his wife, I do believe they did have sexual relations. Mary reported she was pregnant in November 1554, however, she would have the same problems regarding her pregnancies that her mother had, especially if she suffered from congenital syphilis. Doctors from Mary’s time document her child bearing problems as “phantom pregnancies.” Basically, that she was so desirous to be pregnant, she thought she was when she wasn’t. What makes more sense is that Mary, if she was pregnant, would have difficulty carrying to term because of the congenital syphilis. But, was congenital syphilis the cause of her “phantom” pregnancies?

What we do know is this: throughout her life, Mary was in poor health. She had problems with her eyesight, headaches, and infrequent menstruation. During her first reported pregnancy, doctors did document symptoms of pregnancy including an enlarging belly and lactation. What most likely happened was a pregnancy that she miscarried without realizing it. This would be very probably considering the condition she had. After a while, her symptoms went away and nobody talked about it to Queen. In February 1558, Mary thought she was pregnant again, but doctors thought his was another phantom pregnancy. Again, she had symptoms of pregnancy that went away. What I believe at this time is that Mary probably suffered from reproductive problems, possibility cysts, fibroids, and even ovarian/cervical cancer, giving the confusing range of symptoms the doctors reported. As her symptoms from the pregnancy faded, her health took a turn for the worst. As an interesting note, it was reported Phillip found sex with Mary intolerable, complaining of a gynecological condition.

Weir states that Mary had a malignant tumor in her womb, and that Mary died of cancer. This could very well be. There is more credible evidence to support that Mary died of “female” problems, as opposed to the congenital syphilis she suffered from. Mary was 42 when she died, proving that a child with congenital syphilis could live and thrive despite the symptoms that haunted her all her life.

ELIZABETH I

Elizabeth, Henry’s daughter with Anne Boleyn, was not reported to have any symptoms of congenital syphilis. She lived to be a ripe old age of 68 (considered a ripe old age for the times).

I would assert that if Elizabeth had married and had children, they would have been free of the taint of syphilis.

It is ironic that Henry’s greatest prize, Edward VI, would die such a painful death, so early in life and his greatest shame, Elizabeth, would be remembered for her successful reign. It is also ironic that Henry’s shameful behavior toward his daughter, coupled with Thomas Seymour’s amorous advances toward Elizabeth while her stepmother, Katherine Parr, was pregnant with Seymour’s child, soured her on the idea of marriage and having children herself. If she had a child, I would assert that it would have had a lusty cry, free of the taint of syphilis and it would have carried the Tudor dynasty forward into the next century.

CONCULSION

Henry’s promiscuous behavior led to him contracting syphilis and giving it to his wives. This active strand of syphilis made it near impossible for him to have an heir – be it a girl or a boy. Mary and Edward died, having been haunted by congenital syphilis all their lives, and Elizabeth, who could have carried on the Tudor dynasty, had no desire to get married and have children. She simply did not want to have herself subjected to a man’s will after experiencing her father’s.

Henry will always be remembered as a charismatic, dashing young man, and an old, fat king. The hallmark of his reign brought about the downfall of the Catholic Church in England, but he will forever be remembered for his six wives – wives who tried to please him but were doomed to fail due to the syphilis which haunted him practically all his life.


References:
Book: The Six Wives of Henry VIII, Alison Weir, 1991, Ballantine Books, 642 pages.
Internet:
http://www.womenshealth.gov/faq/syphilis.cfm
http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/pregnancy/a/syphinpregancy.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England
http://www.tudorhistory.org/henry8/
http://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/STDFact-Syphilis.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis
http://syphilis.emedtv.com/syphilis/syphilis-in-pregnant-women.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VII_of_England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Aragon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur,_Prince_of_Wales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn
http://en.wiki http://englishhistory.net/tudor/monarchs/edward6.html pedia.org/wiki/Edward_VI_of_England

11 comments:

  1. wow, i always thought he was a punk. would have sucked to get his attention! =8-0

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  2. I really hate to be a killjoy, but Henry almost certainly didn't have syphilis, either primary or congenital.
    I feel bad, but in another life, I was a scholar of this period and while you make the most of disputed fact, there are some others that are plain wrong.

    1. Wikipedia isn't a suitable source for reference. It is frequently inaccurate, and doesn't rely on primary sources for its information.
    2. You mean "puerperal" fever, not "perpetual."
    3. Anne of Cleves, not Anne of Cleaves.
    4. Henry almost certainly had sex with Katharine Parr, his last wife. His will, amended for her, mentions "heirs of his body" which he would beget on her. No, it wasn't a typical clause, it was put in specially.
    5. Katharine Parr died in childbirth after she married Seymour. Her baby died in childhood. There are no primary sources to support your assumption that the child was free of congenital syphilis. Conversely, there is no evidence to the contrary, either.
    6. Queen Jane was not kept in insanitary conditions - puerperal fever has nothing to do with that, but with an infection contracted at birth in a pre-antibiotic era. She was cherished and carefully looked after, and was brought in state to her son's christening, at her own insistence. All the evidence points to Henry cherishing Jane, not least the great Holbein fresco at Whitehall.
    7. When you quote original (primary) sources, you should quote them. I couldn't find reference to the Anne of Cleves claim, for example.
    8. Edward's symptoms at his death are also typical of arsenic poisoning, either accidental or deliberate. Or it might have been consumption, which was endemic at this time. Primary sources of details of his condition are rare.
    9. There is no evidence that Henry VIII was promiscuous, especially when compared to his fellow monarch, Francis I of France. Henry had two known mistresses, Bessie Blount and Mary Boleyn, and six wives. Serial monogamy was more likely undertaken to ensure a successor, essential if England was to avoid another damaging civil war.
    10. Henry most likely did not have syphilis, nor did his father. Recent research has established that, including a project to investigate the royal account books and inventories from his reign. And yes, if he'd purchased the only known (and not always successful) "cure" for the illness, that would have been there.
    It is tempting to assume that Henry VII contracted syphilis when he was in Burgundy in 1471, but there is no evidence that he did so.
    Here's a simple explanation of why scholars are fairly sure that Henry didn't have syphilis:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=J99nwRs08bU&gl=US
    and this one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me8yqOqAkuw&feature=related

    There are many more studies and research, most of them not on the net, or only referenced there, but easy enough to get hold of. It is more likely that he had late onset diabetes. Queen Katharine of Aragon came from a family with a history of difficult births and childhoods, and repeated cousin marriages. Anne Boleyn might have been rhesus positive, which would lead her to give birth to a healthy child and miscarry the rest. Jane Seymour died in childbirth, not unusual for the period. Henry may not have slept with Anne of Cleves. Katharine Howard probably had abortions before she met Henry, and she never became pregnant from any of her lovers. Katharine Parr married a very sick man, and after his death, died in childbirth.

    If you can get hold of the programs I referenced above, you might find them very interesting.

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  3. Sorry, I wrote it too fast. Anne Boleyn was rhesus negative, in all likelihood.

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  4. Wow Ladies this is so interesting. Don't you just love history.

    Regards

    Margaret

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  5. I agree, Margaret. This is one of the reasons I love history. Lynne, thank you so much for your thoughts and the other resources to examine. I look forward to it.

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    Steph

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  6. Whether the claims are true or false, will we ever truly know? We didn't live that time period and record keeping at that time was done on paper of some sort which can be damaged easily and ink fades with time. Therefore everything is left for us to have an opinion of what we read if available based on whatever knowledge and or education that we have.

    We are only human so errors are almost prevalent if you ask me my opinion.

    However, I enjoyed this post because it is the first in my history of reading romances and such that an STD was discussed.

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  7. Ms. Burkhart:

    A nice little essay, although my understanding of congenital syphilis suggests outcomes universally more dire than Mary's. But, of course, this is all in the realm of hisstoricxal speculation, but interesting nonetheless.

    For updates, you will probably want to change "perpetual fever" to "puerperal fever".

    And, FYI I will soon publish a history of syphilis including an assessment of the current national and international upticks in rates plus speculations about the possible 21st century trajectory of this STD. The book will be called "THE PROSTITUTE'S PUPIL: Sex and Syphilis in the 21st Century".

    Keep up your good work.

    Gil Honigfeld
    honigfeld.gil@gmail.com

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  8. Ladybirdrobi,
    I agree - we'll never know for sure, but we will all draw conculsions based on what we've been been exposed to and our opinions. I think it's a fascinating "what if" history topic. I'm glad you did enjoy the post.

    Gil, thank you for your thoughts and I will make that update regarding puerperal fever. Your books sounds interesting. It's my understanding the Stewarts were haunted by syphilis so I want to look at them next.

    Steph

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  9. Where to start... you have so many inaccuracies, and so many theories you concluding are facts, I don't know where to begin.
    PLEASE stop obtaining your knowledge of history for WIKI and a ridiculous soap opera like 'The Tudors'. If you are using these as your sole sources of information, then you know nothing about Henry VIII.
    1) There is absolutely no evidence that Henry had syphillis. This disease was well known and wide spread by the 16th century; if Henry had it, or his physicians suspected it, the fact would have been well documented. Francis I of France had syphillis, and everyone knew it. Mercury was the only known treatment for syphillis, and it's well documented that Francis went through this ordeal - it makes the hair and teeth fall out. Henry never suffered mercury treatments.
    2) Seven months without becoming pregnant is not at all unusual. Do you understand that there are only 48-72 hours in any given menstrual cycle in which a woman can become pregnant? And women don't ovulate during every cycle. If Henry were having erectile dysfunction, that is much more in keeping with a disease like Type II diabetes, not syphillis! Diabetes also explains his other health problems much more readily than syphillis.
    3) Henry and Anne of Cleves never consummated their marriage - that was the entire basis for their divorce! How in the world could you have overlooked that fact?
    4)Compared to his contemporaries, Henry was not promiscuous. He had very few mistresses, and those were usually just while his wives were pregnant, as sex during pregnancy was considered dangerous.

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  10. Lynne is guilty, as is the poster of the original topic, of providing "facts" without footnotes or referencing sources. Also, she is an ass.

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